Cho Li Fut Form

sifuwhite · Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Whiteland, IN

As the new guy and 5000 miles away, I thought I would share some forms. Here is one that I
took 1st place with at the East Coast invitational.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v224/Wizardsr/?action=view&current=ECinv01.flv

Sifu White
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**Admin/Moderator** · Site Admin Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 46

Hi Tim,

Very interesting form. Congratulations on taking 1st Place with this form. What are its origins?

sifuwhite · Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Whiteland, IN

AS you know that Choi Li Fut is a three family system, Choi, Li and Fut.

The Form was designed from the Leopards Punch or four knuckle punch. It target mostly soft tissue area and it uses very fast double blocking movements throughout the form.

I hope you enjoyed the form.

Tim
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**Admin/Moderator** · Site Admin Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 46

Thanks Tim,

Enjoyed viewing the form. Noticed quite a fair bit of double-handed strikes using the Leopards Paw etc. Why is the form called "Ginger Fist" what is the meaning behind the naming of the form?

sifuwhite · Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Whiteland, IN

Basically, the origin of the form was done in the Ginger Fields of China, and the form is actually based off the move where I drop down and throw the dirt or the mud at my opponent. The Actual Name of the Form in Chinese is NG Hum Ni. So, the actual form was named after one of the sifus saw a bird fling mud at a prey bird in a ginger field.

Tim
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**Admin/Moderator** · Site Admin Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 46

Thanks for the explanation Tim.

Always good to know more.

Big Kev · Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 4

Dude, are you for real? Question

What branch of Choy Lay Fut is that supposed to be from? (eg. Buk Sing, Hung Sing, Hung Xiong)

Who is your CLF Sifu? and he's Sifu?

Shocked

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sifuwhite · Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Whiteland, IN

Sir,

It is my understanding that you have background in Choi li Fut...Congratulations on you education.

Just to clarify some issues dealing with the form.

1. To be exact I am not sure what region or family system that form was taken from. I learned that form 30 years ago.
2. My Sifu is Tak Chung Wong, who was a Sr. Disciple of H. B. Un (Deceased) and NG, Yiu Hong Kong Pak Mei Federation
3. My Sifu learned the form form H.B. Un and passed it down. Now my Sifu was not big on the academics. So some history of the forms we teach are not as critical as you may think.

However, I would like to thank you for your inquirey. No one has ever questioned it before...

As to am I for Real, I am. I deal with violent people every day. Forms are my stress relief and believe me I am for real.

Tim
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Director of the the Molum Combat Arts Association. Director of the the MLCAA Honor Society, over 35 years in the Martial Arts. 8th Duan Molum Pai Kung Fu, 7th Dan Keisatsu Jujitsu.

Big Kev · Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 4

Hi

Thanks, you can just call me Kev or Kevin

Actually I'm more interested in "Hakka Arts", funnily enough.... Bak Mei, Nam Tong Long, Lung Ying, Chu Ka etc

So,

Tak Chung Wong, was a senior disciple student of of H. B. Un and Ng Yiu lineages and in Hong Kong Bak Mei Federation?

H. B. Un picked up this "Choi li fut" form called "ginger fist" - "NG Hum Ni" from someone somewhere along the line and then taught to Tak Chung Wong? (??perhaps even "personalising it" as naturally happens")

"are you for real" may of lost something in translation Very Happy

.. in Australia it means "are you serious?/are you kidding or joking" "are you trying to pull a fast one" ..

(regarding that being a CLF form...) becasue that form is SO so UN-characteristically CLF, among other things thats all......

well... with New Years Eve upon us over here! I look forward to discussing, investigating this more later in the new year...

especially the Bak Mei (is this main basis of "Molum Gung Fu"?)

Happy New Year!!
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Kevin Wells

sifuwhite · Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Whiteland, IN

Dear Kevin,

Thank you for your response.

I try not to take these forums personal. It is about the sharing of and comparing of Information and ideologies.

I always love a challenge.

I will share what I know about Pak Mei since we do the following Pak Mei forms as well.
Jik Bo (Basic Training Form or Walking Form)
Gabatui
18 Bridge Palms
Tiger Fork

Tim

I know more history here than most or some...lol
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sifuwhite · Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Whiteland, IN

Kev,

As for the Molum Pai Kung Fu System

The system was developed by Master Tak Chung Wong.

He basicall did it off of all the Chinese forms he really liked and had similar moves to ensure smooth transition from one form to the next.

Molum Pai means: The Way of the Growing Forest.
Meaning that we must always be in a state of Growing. If you are not growing then you are stagnet and dying in place.... Philosphical meaning.
We also use the Second Meaning as well.
Martial Forest.. Learing to Martial Way through Growth and understanding.

Tim
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Director of the the Molum Combat Arts Association. Director of the the MLCAA Honor Society, over 35 years in the Martial Arts. 8th Duan Molum Pai Kung Fu, 7th Dan Keisatsu Jujitsu.

sifuwhite · Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Whiteland, IN

"are you for real" may of lost something in translation .. in Australia it means "are you serious?/are you kidding or joking" "are you trying to pull a fast one" ..

I am almost always serious. That way I won't loose my professional side when dealing with issues.. Please don't take it personal, because I don't. Sorry for the misintrepretation if any.

Tim
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Director of the the Molum Combat Arts Association. Director of the the MLCAA Honor Society, over 35 years in the Martial Arts. 8th Duan Molum Pai Kung Fu, 7th Dan Keisatsu Jujitsu.